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 Post subject: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:01 pm 
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I picked up my Fit EV today and was told that they will be having a recall to fix the cold weather performance of the batteries. They thought it might be May maybe. They were not sure if it would be insulation heating or something else. I received nothing else regarding the cold performance than this info. Hopefully next winter we will have better performance in cold conditions.


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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:37 am 
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Where did you pick up your car? I haven't contacted my dealer recently, but maybe I should? Right now I'd be happy knowing I could get 40-50 miles in the winter. I have to plan my Mondays since I have things to do after work. Today it is 12° meaning I have to take different routes, not use heat and drive carefully to make the 35 mile trip. I like to make it home with heat and lights on without stopping out of my way to charge. I can't wait for more charging places to pop up.

Thanks for the update! Anyone else hear any word on this?

Tim

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:23 am 
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Very interesting. Thank you Doug. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:35 pm 
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SolarDoug wrote:
They were not sure if it would be insulation, heating or something else.

I would be much more interested if the "something else" was a new 40 kW battery... :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:26 am 
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Quick tip how to increase range for cold East cost.

Charge before going sleep up to 80-85% and turn off manually.
In the morning 30 min before leaving turn on charge so you top up to 100% and also pre-heat. Apparently when you charging battery warming up and that will increase your range from 25-30 miles to 45-50 miles.

I was trying this for a week it's working for me.

So yes Honda please try make battery heating or preheating that helps a lot in cold temperature.

Ernest

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:32 am 
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Ernestasl wrote:
Quick tip how to increase range for cold East cost.

Charge before going sleep up to 80-85% and turn off manually.
In the morning 30 min before leaving turn on charge so you top up to 100% and also pre-heat. Apparently when you charging battery warming up and that will increase your range from 25-30 miles to 45-50 miles.

I was trying this for a week it's working for me.

So yes Honda please try make battery heating or preheating that helps a lot in cold temperature.

Ernest

Honda FIT EV. 348



I don't quite understand, I don't think you can preheat until the battery is 100%. How do you preheat and charge at the same time?


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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:47 am 
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He's saying top the charge up to 100% in the morning and then preheat.

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:34 am 
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You can preheat at almost any battery %. I've only had issues preheating below 10% i believe(probably in the manual somewhere but I haven't checked). Preheating while charging seems like the best way for me also. But I don't bother since my commute is so short.

I hope this recall fixes the computer guessing the miles left on the charge. This morning woke up with a full charge, it was -5° overnight and still -1 outside. My email showed the car finished charging at 11pm last night, and my GOM range was 13 miles...... 13 miles?!? what?
I don't believe the GOM at all anymore, full charge is 30+ miles for me at almost any temperature. 5.5 miles later the GOM was at 14 miles. With guesses like this i don't think computers or skynet are going to take over the world any time soon. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:07 am 
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From what I've read elsewhere, the problem with preheating before SOC is 100% is that the draw from the heater will outpace the charger charging the battery. So, you may not reach 100% SOC until the heater has warmed the car enough to shut off. Depending on your commute, you may not need that much range, but I assume if you are heating when charging, you'll see range drop until the draw from the heater goes down. The heater runs for, what, 30 minutes, so you would probably need a good deal more time than that to get back to 100% SOC. I typically set the charger to go on at 3:00 am and then preheat at 6:15 (since I'll have 100% SOC) to leave at 6:45.

The GOM is the GOM, same issue with the Leaf. It's just guessing. My rule is don't take the FEV unless it's 11 degrees or above to make my 35 mile commute. I could probably push that but this morning it was 1, so I iced it.

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for Cold Battery Upgrade Coming Soon
PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:33 pm 
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I have about 11,200 miles on my Fit EV. I'm thinking by the time I take it in for the 15,000 mi maintenance maybe they will be able to do the upgrade as well. I can probably manage to put the additional mileage on before the car turns a year old on June 8th.

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